[WMCEE-l] *urgent* Re: CEE Meeting cancelled?

Juan de Vojníkov juandevojnikov at gmail.com
Sat Oct 19 07:02:55 CEST 2013


Well,

I am not going there. Thats why, I havent started to prepare *Things in
common (workshop). *But it seems to me guys are able to organise the event
and seemingly otheres already bought their tickets and atempted to come.*

*
Regards,
Juandev*
*


2013/10/18 Tomasz Ganicz <polimerek at gmail.com>

> I am not quite sure, but it seems that organizers already silently
> resigned from direct WMF financial support. As far as I know, they have
> their own grant from other institution and some support from some chapters.
> I am not writing this to blame WMF or organisers. For sure there is not
> enough time now for WMF to make a decision of financial support of CEE
> meeting. Anyway - we have not bought any tickets yet - but we are already
> engaged with help with visa issues for several people outside EU.
>
>
>
>
> 2013/10/18 Asaf Bartov <abartov at wikimedia.org>
>
>> *How many of you have committed (i.e. bought tickets) to travel to this
>> event?  *
>>
>> I am much concerned about it, as expressed before, and while Michal has
>> just submitted the grant proposal finally, it is _much_ too late to allow
>> the proper grant review process by the GAC, not to mention to actually get
>> the money to Michal's organization on time for the event.
>>
>> There really is no good reason for this time pressure -- the event was
>> planned long ago, and the funding should have been secured _months_ ago.
>>  I, and others, have attempted to remind the organizers about this on
>> several occasions during past months.
>>
>> I am determined to support _effective_ events, and I must conclude this
>> has not been shaping up to be an effective event.  I would like to
>> seriously propose to everyone to consider postponing the CEE conference by
>> at least a few months, to allow better planning, more meaningful engagement
>> (and by more communities!) on the program, and adequate time to discuss
>> funding.
>>
>>    A.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Tomasz Ganicz <polimerek at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> This is the way we want to help Sussana.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/10/16 Juan de Vojníkov <juandevojnikov at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> What about to enter EU via different country, where you can get it
>>>> faster?
>>>> Dne 15.10.2013 23:30 "Tomasz Ganicz" <polimerek at gmail.com> napsal(a):
>>>>
>>>> We try to help - more details on priv.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/10/15 Susanna Mkrtchyan <susanna.mkrtchyan at wikimedia.am>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is,
>>>>>> that we have short of time and
>>>>>> the requirements to receive  visa
>>>>>> for Slovakia are different than for Poland.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Susanna.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Susanna Mkrtchyan
>>>>>> Wikimedia Armenia NGO, President
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paruyr Sevak 1, room 335,
>>>>>> 0014 Yerevan, Armenia
>>>>>> T: +374 10 281980
>>>>>> E: susanna.mkrtchyan at wikimedia.am
>>>>>> URL: www.wikimedia.am
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:47 PM, Marcin Cieslak <marcin at cieslak.name
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Susana,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know what is the problem?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Slovakia is represented by the non-resident ambassador in Bratislava
>>>>>>> (has no diplomatic post), but it is possible to
>>>>>>> apply for a Schengen visa up to 90 days in Polish consulate in
>>>>>>> Yerevan:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://erywan.msz.gov.pl/en/consular_information/visas_to_slovakia/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seems like you need an invitation registered with Slovak Cudzinecká
>>>>>>> polícia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> //Saper
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Susanna Mkrtchyan <
>>>>>>> susanna.mkrtchyan at wikimedia.am> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi All.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Excuse for disturbing, I need advice or help.
>>>>>>>> Today I received this mail from Michal Matusov.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Dear Susanna.
>>>>>>>> I'm so sorry but it seems to be very improbable to receive all
>>>>>>>> documents in time, foreign affairs police needs up to 2 weeks for
>>>>>>>> confirmation.
>>>>>>>> Do you have some another proposal? For example some Armenian living
>>>>>>>> outside of Armenia who would like to attend the conference?
>>>>>>>> I am really so sorry that I haven't helped you more.
>>>>>>>> Regards."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> May be for visiting Slovakia, I can get the visa for other country,
>>>>>>>> for instance, Germany or Poland, which have embassies in Armenia.
>>>>>>>> Could anybody of you help to solve this problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Susanna.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Susanna Mkrtchyan
>>>>>>>> Wikimedia Armenia NGO, President
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paruyr Sevak 1, room 335,
>>>>>>>> 0014 Yerevan, Armenia
>>>>>>>> T: +374 10 281980
>>>>>>>> E: susanna.mkrtchyan at wikimedia.am
>>>>>>>> URL: www.wikimedia.am
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Juan de Vojníkov <
>>>>>>>> juandevojnikov at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *I confess it was a little disappointing to see not big public
>>>>>>>>> interest about the meeting in middle of organising it. But it seems to be
>>>>>>>>> caused by lack of communication, because as I have written personally to
>>>>>>>>> potential attendants they showed interest.*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh yes, that is the right progress. I would recommend to talk to
>>>>>>>>> all potential participants directly. If you dont know to who, look at life
>>>>>>>>> documentation from other meeting to know, who is working on what in which
>>>>>>>>> country: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/CEE2012
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *This approach wasn't so effective as you can seein program talk
>>>>>>>>> page.*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Next time, you can visit other Wikimedia events in the area to
>>>>>>>>> see, what is their approach.[?]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2013/10/9 Mile Kiš <m.mikym at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  And who (sill) thinks that we do not have communicate on this
>>>>>>>>>> list. 13 emails in 1 day :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hope, everything will be fine in the end. We really need CEE
>>>>>>>>>> conference and we really need to put progress in working together.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> mile
>>>>>>>>>>
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