[WMCEE-l] CEE Meeting cancelled?

Kiril Simeonovski kiril.simeonovski at gmail.com
Tue Oct 8 17:32:14 CEST 2013


Hi,

Nice to hear there is still enthusiasm to organise the conference, but
don't forget that there is almost a month before the official dates.

Best,

Kiril


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Michal Reiter <ch.mabot at gmail.com> wrote:

> more interactive slovak timetable is located at:
>
>
> http://cp.atlas.sk/vlakbus/spojenie/?date=22.10.2013&time=17%3a19&f=Bratislava&t=Modra&fc=1&tc=1&direct=false&byarr=false&submit=true&af=false&lng=E
> Sincerely
> Michal Reiter/Limojoe
>
>
> 2013/10/8 Bence Damokos <bdamokos at gmail.com>
>
>> I'll let the organisers provide detailed information, but basically you
>> can take a bus or train to Vienna to Bratislava which takes about an hour,
>> and from Bratislava, you can take a local bus to Modra (
>> http://www.slovaklines.sk/fileadmin/user_upload/cestovne_poriadky/pal/102422.pdf
>> ).
>>
>> Not sure about the exact prices but the Bratislava-Vienna part should
>> cost you around EURO 15 for a round trip, and the local bus to Modra should not
>> be too expensive either.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Bence
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Raul Veede <raul.veede at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "we have grant for attendants from Vysegrad group and promised funds
>>> from number of WM chapters"
>>>
>>> Does this mean you have no intention to apply for a grant directly from
>>> WMF?
>>>
>>> Also, again: it would be VERY useful if you would give any information
>>> about the transport to Modra. The closest points obviously are Bratislava
>>> and Vienna, but how can one get from Vienna to Modra?
>>>
>>> Raul
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Michal Matúšov <
>>> michal.matusov at wikimedia.sk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone.
>>>>
>>>> Opinion of organiser:
>>>>
>>>> I confess it was a little disappointing to see not big public interest
>>>> about the meeting in middle of organising it. But it seems to be caused by
>>>> lack of communication, because as I have written personally to potential
>>>> attendants they showed interest.
>>>>
>>>> As Juan have mentioned, organisation of some events are finished not
>>>> long time before of it. This is case of this event too. Me too would prefer
>>>> to have program done 3 months before of the conference; but we wanted to
>>>> provide program most customized to interests and needs of local
>>>> organisations. This approach wasn't so effective as you can seein program
>>>> talk page.
>>>>
>>>> Up to now is reserved and prepared venue, we have grant for attendants
>>>> from Vysegrad group and promised funds from number of WM chapters, number
>>>> of speaks is confirmed. Graphic designer are preparing materials for the
>>>> conference and registration form is going to be published very soon.
>>>>
>>>> The meeting is _not_ cancelled and we are still working on it. I want
>>>> to emphasise that work of local organiser, E at I, is not so visible for
>>>> now, it will be visible especially during the conference. For communication
>>>> with Wikimedia community is responsible me personally.
>>>>
>>>> If you have some questions or proposals don't hesitate to contact me.
>>>>
>>>> Regards!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 08.10.2013 01:50 odosielateľ napísal:
>>>>
>>>> Hello, everyone.
>>>>
>>>> I'm beginning to think the CEE meeting[0] should be considered
>>>> cancelled.  Here's why:
>>>>
>>>> 1. It is just barely more than 1 month away, and despite several
>>>> reminders (not just by me), a grant proposal has not yet been submitted to
>>>> WMF for consideration.  The draft proposal[1] does not provide enough
>>>> specifics to begin reviewing, and has not been edited since July.
>>>>
>>>> 2. The program page[2] has seen almost no discussion, just a number of
>>>> me-too votes.  Apparently, speakers were invited based on these votes, but
>>>> the talk descriptions are merely vague titles, e.g. "Photo contest in
>>>> Wikimedia environment", or "GLAM".
>>>>
>>>> 3. The main (and only?) local organizer is unresponsive for weeks at a
>>>> time[3].
>>>>
>>>> 4. On-list discussions seem to involve no more than 3-4 people.
>>>>  Repeated calls by the 3-4 who care for others to participate go
>>>> unanswered.  My interpretation: the vast majority of CEE Wikimedians on the
>>>> list just don't care very much about this event -- whether it happens at
>>>> all, or what it consists of if it does.
>>>>
>>>> Given all this, I have serious doubts about whether it would be
>>>> responsible to fund this event.  If you think I'm wrong, please offer your
>>>> perspective, in light of the above.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>    Asaf
>>>>
>>>> [0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2013
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Wikimedia_Slovakia/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2013
>>>> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2013/Program
>>>> [3] I'm sure it's not by choice!  I don't blame KuboF at all.  I am,
>>>> however, pointing out at a crucial weakness of organizing capacity, given
>>>> KuboF's limited availability.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>     Asaf Bartov
>>>>     Wikimedia Foundation <http://www.wikimediafoundation.org>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Michal Matúšov
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