[WMCEE-l] CEE Meeting cancelled?

Michal Reiter ch.mabot at gmail.com
Tue Oct 8 17:25:11 CEST 2013

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Michal Reiter/Limojoe

2013/10/8 Bence Damokos <bdamokos na gmail.com>

> I'll let the organisers provide detailed information, but basically you
> can take a bus or train to Vienna to Bratislava which takes about an hour,
> and from Bratislava, you can take a local bus to Modra (
> http://www.slovaklines.sk/fileadmin/user_upload/cestovne_poriadky/pal/102422.pdf
> ).
> Not sure about the exact prices but the Bratislava-Vienna part should cost
> you around €15 for a round trip, and the local bus to Modra should not be
> too expensive either.
> Best regards,
> Bence
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Raul Veede <raul.veede na gmail.com> wrote:
>> "we have grant for attendants from Vysegrad group and promised funds
>> from number of WM chapters"
>> Does this mean you have no intention to apply for a grant directly from
>> WMF?
>> Also, again: it would be VERY useful if you would give any information
>> about the transport to Modra. The closest points obviously are Bratislava
>> and Vienna, but how can one get from Vienna to Modra?
>> Raul
>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Michal Matúšov <
>> michal.matusov na wikimedia.sk> wrote:
>>> **
>>> Hi everyone.
>>> Opinion of organiser:
>>> I confess it was a little disappointing to see not big public interest
>>> about the meeting in middle of organising it. But it seems to be caused by
>>> lack of communication, because as I have written personally to potential
>>> attendants they showed interest.
>>> As Juan have mentioned, organisation of some events are finished not
>>> long time before of it. This is case of this event too. Me too would prefer
>>> to have program done 3 months before of the conference; but we wanted to
>>> provide program most customized to interests and needs of local
>>> organisations. This approach wasn't so effective as you can seein program
>>> talk page.
>>> Up to now is reserved and prepared venue, we have grant for attendants
>>> from Vysegrad group and promised funds from number of WM chapters, number
>>> of speaks is confirmed. Graphic designer are preparing materials for the
>>> conference and registration form is going to be published very soon.
>>> The meeting is _not_ cancelled and we are still working on it. I want to
>>> emphasise that work of local organiser, E na I, is not so visible for now,
>>> it will be visible especially during the conference. For communication with
>>> Wikimedia community is responsible me personally.
>>> If you have some questions or proposals don't hesitate to contact me.
>>> Regards!
>>> 08.10.2013 01:50 odosielateľ napísal:
>>> Hello, everyone.
>>> I'm beginning to think the CEE meeting[0] should be considered
>>> cancelled.  Here's why:
>>> 1. It is just barely more than 1 month away, and despite several
>>> reminders (not just by me), a grant proposal has not yet been submitted to
>>> WMF for consideration.  The draft proposal[1] does not provide enough
>>> specifics to begin reviewing, and has not been edited since July.
>>> 2. The program page[2] has seen almost no discussion, just a number of
>>> me-too votes.  Apparently, speakers were invited based on these votes, but
>>> the talk descriptions are merely vague titles, e.g. "Photo contest in
>>> Wikimedia environment", or "GLAM".
>>> 3. The main (and only?) local organizer is unresponsive for weeks at a
>>> time[3].
>>> 4. On-list discussions seem to involve no more than 3-4 people.
>>>  Repeated calls by the 3-4 who care for others to participate go
>>> unanswered.  My interpretation: the vast majority of CEE Wikimedians on the
>>> list just don't care very much about this event -- whether it happens at
>>> all, or what it consists of if it does.
>>> Given all this, I have serious doubts about whether it would be
>>> responsible to fund this event.  If you think I'm wrong, please offer your
>>> perspective, in light of the above.
>>> Thanks,
>>>    Asaf
>>> [0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2013
>>> [1]
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Wikimedia_Slovakia/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2013
>>> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2013/Program
>>> [3] I'm sure it's not by choice!  I don't blame KuboF at all.  I am,
>>> however, pointing out at a crucial weakness of organizing capacity, given
>>> KuboF's limited availability.
>>> --
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