[WMCEE-l] CEE Meeting cancelled?

Bence Damokos bdamokos at gmail.com
Tue Oct 8 15:39:05 CEST 2013

I'll let the organisers provide detailed information, but basically you can
take a bus or train to Vienna to Bratislava which takes about an hour, and
from Bratislava, you can take a local bus to Modra (

Not sure about the exact prices but the Bratislava-Vienna part should cost
you around €15 for a round trip, and the local bus to Modra should not be
too expensive either.

Best regards,

On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Raul Veede <raul.veede at gmail.com> wrote:

> "we have grant for attendants from Vysegrad group and promised funds from
> number of WM chapters"
> Does this mean you have no intention to apply for a grant directly from
> WMF?
> Also, again: it would be VERY useful if you would give any information
> about the transport to Modra. The closest points obviously are Bratislava
> and Vienna, but how can one get from Vienna to Modra?
> Raul
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Michal Matúšov <
> michal.matusov at wikimedia.sk> wrote:
>> **
>> Hi everyone.
>> Opinion of organiser:
>> I confess it was a little disappointing to see not big public interest
>> about the meeting in middle of organising it. But it seems to be caused by
>> lack of communication, because as I have written personally to potential
>> attendants they showed interest.
>> As Juan have mentioned, organisation of some events are finished not long
>> time before of it. This is case of this event too. Me too would prefer to
>> have program done 3 months before of the conference; but we wanted to
>> provide program most customized to interests and needs of local
>> organisations. This approach wasn't so effective as you can seein program
>> talk page.
>> Up to now is reserved and prepared venue, we have grant for attendants
>> from Vysegrad group and promised funds from number of WM chapters, number
>> of speaks is confirmed. Graphic designer are preparing materials for the
>> conference and registration form is going to be published very soon.
>> The meeting is _not_ cancelled and we are still working on it. I want to
>> emphasise that work of local organiser, E at I, is not so visible for now,
>> it will be visible especially during the conference. For communication with
>> Wikimedia community is responsible me personally.
>> If you have some questions or proposals don't hesitate to contact me.
>> Regards!
>> 08.10.2013 01:50 odosielateľ napísal:
>> Hello, everyone.
>> I'm beginning to think the CEE meeting[0] should be considered cancelled.
>>  Here's why:
>> 1. It is just barely more than 1 month away, and despite several
>> reminders (not just by me), a grant proposal has not yet been submitted to
>> WMF for consideration.  The draft proposal[1] does not provide enough
>> specifics to begin reviewing, and has not been edited since July.
>> 2. The program page[2] has seen almost no discussion, just a number of
>> me-too votes.  Apparently, speakers were invited based on these votes, but
>> the talk descriptions are merely vague titles, e.g. "Photo contest in
>> Wikimedia environment", or "GLAM".
>> 3. The main (and only?) local organizer is unresponsive for weeks at a
>> time[3].
>> 4. On-list discussions seem to involve no more than 3-4 people.  Repeated
>> calls by the 3-4 who care for others to participate go unanswered.  My
>> interpretation: the vast majority of CEE Wikimedians on the list just don't
>> care very much about this event -- whether it happens at all, or what it
>> consists of if it does.
>> Given all this, I have serious doubts about whether it would be
>> responsible to fund this event.  If you think I'm wrong, please offer your
>> perspective, in light of the above.
>> Thanks,
>>    Asaf
>> [0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2013
>> [1]
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Wikimedia_Slovakia/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2013
>> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2013/Program
>> [3] I'm sure it's not by choice!  I don't blame KuboF at all.  I am,
>> however, pointing out at a crucial weakness of organizing capacity, given
>> KuboF's limited availability.
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