[WMCEE-l] CEE Meeting cancelled?

Raul Veede raul.veede at gmail.com
Tue Oct 8 12:58:17 CEST 2013

"we have grant for attendants from Vysegrad group and promised funds from
number of WM chapters"

Does this mean you have no intention to apply for a grant directly from WMF?

Also, again: it would be VERY useful if you would give any information
about the transport to Modra. The closest points obviously are Bratislava
and Vienna, but how can one get from Vienna to Modra?


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Michal Matúšov
<michal.matusov at wikimedia.sk>wrote:

> **
> Hi everyone.
> Opinion of organiser:
> I confess it was a little disappointing to see not big public interest
> about the meeting in middle of organising it. But it seems to be caused by
> lack of communication, because as I have written personally to potential
> attendants they showed interest.
> As Juan have mentioned, organisation of some events are finished not long
> time before of it. This is case of this event too. Me too would prefer to
> have program done 3 months before of the conference; but we wanted to
> provide program most customized to interests and needs of local
> organisations. This approach wasn't so effective as you can seein program
> talk page.
> Up to now is reserved and prepared venue, we have grant for attendants
> from Vysegrad group and promised funds from number of WM chapters, number
> of speaks is confirmed. Graphic designer are preparing materials for the
> conference and registration form is going to be published very soon.
> The meeting is _not_ cancelled and we are still working on it. I want to
> emphasise that work of local organiser, E at I, is not so visible for now,
> it will be visible especially during the conference. For communication with
> Wikimedia community is responsible me personally.
> If you have some questions or proposals don't hesitate to contact me.
> Regards!
> 08.10.2013 01:50 odosielateľ napísal:
> Hello, everyone.
> I'm beginning to think the CEE meeting[0] should be considered cancelled.
>  Here's why:
> 1. It is just barely more than 1 month away, and despite several reminders
> (not just by me), a grant proposal has not yet been submitted to WMF for
> consideration.  The draft proposal[1] does not provide enough specifics to
> begin reviewing, and has not been edited since July.
> 2. The program page[2] has seen almost no discussion, just a number of
> me-too votes.  Apparently, speakers were invited based on these votes, but
> the talk descriptions are merely vague titles, e.g. "Photo contest in
> Wikimedia environment", or "GLAM".
> 3. The main (and only?) local organizer is unresponsive for weeks at a
> time[3].
> 4. On-list discussions seem to involve no more than 3-4 people.  Repeated
> calls by the 3-4 who care for others to participate go unanswered.  My
> interpretation: the vast majority of CEE Wikimedians on the list just don't
> care very much about this event -- whether it happens at all, or what it
> consists of if it does.
> Given all this, I have serious doubts about whether it would be
> responsible to fund this event.  If you think I'm wrong, please offer your
> perspective, in light of the above.
> Thanks,
>    Asaf
> [0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2013
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Wikimedia_Slovakia/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2013
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2013/Program
> [3] I'm sure it's not by choice!  I don't blame KuboF at all.  I am,
> however, pointing out at a crucial weakness of organizing capacity, given
> KuboF's limited availability.
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