[WMCEE-l] CEE Meeting cancelled?

Raul Veede raul.veede at gmail.com
Tue Oct 8 07:42:11 CEST 2013

Well, I guess for some people in this list it might be just a little bit
hard to organize something in a country they've never seen. And some of us
are already overworked.

Still, I very much hope the people who originally thought they're the
organizational team would pull themselves together and act as one.


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Balázs Viczián
<balazs.viczian at wikimedia.hu>wrote:

> Sorry for writing this, but the Chapters Conference in Milan was the same.
> When did they finish with everything? In the last two weeks before day 1?
> Including the agenda.
> I think this is an issue of unexperience (lack of jhow to" knowledge), not
> an issue of interest.
> Vince
> 2013.10.08. 2:32, "Kiril Simeonovski" <kiril.simeonovski at gmail.com> ezt
> írta:
>  Hi,
>> I totally agree with Asaf. The whole discussion on the thread has been
>> stalled for more than two weeks, which provides no serious interest to
>> organise this conference. Solutions might be to postpone the conference
>> for, at least, month later or to fully transfer it to another interested
>> parties to organise it anywhere else next year. The latter one seems more
>> realistic to me.
>> Best regards,
>> Kiril
>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Asaf Bartov <abartov at wikimedia.org>wrote:
>>> Hello, everyone.
>>> I'm beginning to think the CEE meeting[0] should be considered
>>> cancelled.  Here's why:
>>> 1. It is just barely more than 1 month away, and despite several
>>> reminders (not just by me), a grant proposal has not yet been submitted to
>>> WMF for consideration.  The draft proposal[1] does not provide enough
>>> specifics to begin reviewing, and has not been edited since July.
>>> 2. The program page[2] has seen almost no discussion, just a number of
>>> me-too votes.  Apparently, speakers were invited based on these votes, but
>>> the talk descriptions are merely vague titles, e.g. "Photo contest in
>>> Wikimedia environment", or "GLAM".
>>> 3. The main (and only?) local organizer is unresponsive for weeks at a
>>> time[3].
>>> 4. On-list discussions seem to involve no more than 3-4 people.
>>>  Repeated calls by the 3-4 who care for others to participate go
>>> unanswered.  My interpretation: the vast majority of CEE Wikimedians on the
>>> list just don't care very much about this event -- whether it happens at
>>> all, or what it consists of if it does.
>>> Given all this, I have serious doubts about whether it would be
>>> responsible to fund this event.  If you think I'm wrong, please offer your
>>> perspective, in light of the above.
>>> Thanks,
>>>    Asaf
>>> [0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2013
>>> [1]
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Wikimedia_Slovakia/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2013
>>> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2013/Program
>>> [3] I'm sure it's not by choice!  I don't blame KuboF at all.  I am,
>>> however, pointing out at a crucial weakness of organizing capacity, given
>>> KuboF's limited availability.
>>> --
>>>     Asaf Bartov
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