[WMCEE-l] CEE Meeting cancelled?

Kiril Simeonovski kiril.simeonovski at gmail.com
Tue Oct 8 02:32:32 CEST 2013


I totally agree with Asaf. The whole discussion on the thread has been
stalled for more than two weeks, which provides no serious interest to
organise this conference. Solutions might be to postpone the conference
for, at least, month later or to fully transfer it to another interested
parties to organise it anywhere else next year. The latter one seems more
realistic to me.

Best regards,


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 1:50 AM, Asaf Bartov <abartov at wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hello, everyone.
> I'm beginning to think the CEE meeting[0] should be considered cancelled.
>  Here's why:
> 1. It is just barely more than 1 month away, and despite several reminders
> (not just by me), a grant proposal has not yet been submitted to WMF for
> consideration.  The draft proposal[1] does not provide enough specifics to
> begin reviewing, and has not been edited since July.
> 2. The program page[2] has seen almost no discussion, just a number of
> me-too votes.  Apparently, speakers were invited based on these votes, but
> the talk descriptions are merely vague titles, e.g. "Photo contest in
> Wikimedia environment", or "GLAM".
> 3. The main (and only?) local organizer is unresponsive for weeks at a
> time[3].
> 4. On-list discussions seem to involve no more than 3-4 people.  Repeated
> calls by the 3-4 who care for others to participate go unanswered.  My
> interpretation: the vast majority of CEE Wikimedians on the list just don't
> care very much about this event -- whether it happens at all, or what it
> consists of if it does.
> Given all this, I have serious doubts about whether it would be
> responsible to fund this event.  If you think I'm wrong, please offer your
> perspective, in light of the above.
> Thanks,
>    Asaf
> [0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2013
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Wikimedia_Slovakia/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2013
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2013/Program
> [3] I'm sure it's not by choice!  I don't blame KuboF at all.  I am,
> however, pointing out at a crucial weakness of organizing capacity, given
> KuboF's limited availability.
> --
>     Asaf Bartov
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