[WMCEE-l] Wikimedia CEE conference - program proposal

Juan de Vojníkov juandevojnikov at gmail.com
Thu Feb 2 14:34:53 CET 2012

Interesting, Martin.


Dne 2. února 2012 14:29 Kiril Simeonovski
<kiril.simeonovski at gmail.com>napsal(a):

> Hi Marcin,
> Firstly your proposals are very well conceived and could be a good
> starting point for further evaluation of the program for the CEE Meeting.
> It was initially discussed and I think we reached a consensus to organize a
> two-day mostly focused on the topics that relate to the development of
> smaller communities and how the other can help them reach a wider
> recognition. It surely does not mean that the CEE Meeting is not intended
> for the large communities, so every novelty or sort of project introduced
> in every country is relevant and welcomed to be discussed.
> We can start by discussing this matter on the page for brainstorming on
> Meta. The program for the conference will be the main topic after we set
> the date for the Meeting, and it is essential thing that anyone regardless
> of the place of residence can contribute to.
> Best,
> Kiril
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Marcin Cieslak <marcin at wikimania2010.pl>wrote:
>> Hello,
>> First I'd like say *big thank you* to Miloš, Mile and the team in
>> Belgrade for agreeing to
>> host us in Belgrade in May. I am really happy to see things taking
>> real shape now.
>> I would like to propose a framework/outline of the program. This is
>> going to be our first meeting
>> in a larger group and I think we should not expect to do everything
>> this time. Therefore
>> I would envision that this will be a more introductory meeting for
>> everyone to catch up with
>> what one's neighbours are doing.
>> It is my understanding that we are aiming at the at most two day
>> meeting. Therefore
>> I would like to propose the following:
>> ==Founder summit==
>> At the core of the meeting I would like to see a discussion panel of
>> few founders of few CEE
>> Wikipedias. I hope at least one of the Polish founders will agree to
>> participate and I hope
>> we manage to arrange for others to join. I think this point would be
>> also a good outreach/media
>> attraction - we could promote this meeting as "CEE summit" or
>> "Founders meeting".
>> This could possibly happen on the first day afternoon.
>> Given sufficient interest a press conference could be held after this.
>> ==Introductory presentations==
>> To make discussion more interesting and to relieve our founding
>> fathers from repeating boring facts
>> I would propose that respective projects prepare presentations about
>> their projects. Each project
>> could present for at most 30-40 minutes now. Those presentations need
>> not or even should not
>> be delivered by invited founders (unless they really want to or there
>> is no one other from the community
>> to delivery it).
>> This part itself may take most of the morning of the first day.
>> ==Two speeds in development of the movement?==
>> Our region hosts some quite large communities, which are widely
>> recognizable in the society and widely
>> used by the average Internet user there. Some projects (especially
>> from smaller language communities) still
>> have a long way to go to be recognized among their respective
>> communities. Assuming we hope
>> to achieve a better reach among those, there are some questions to be
>> asked:
>> * What are the breakthrough factors to achieve recognition?
>> * Impact of general economic development on community work and recognition
>> * Impact of Internet access/cost
>> * Impact of Google/Yandex/Seznam positioning on project's popularity
>> (my favourite :)
>> * Easy access to some other language resources (e.g. Russian, German
>> or English) instead
>> * Role of institutional support (government, sponsors, Wikimedia
>> Foundation, chapters ... etc.)
>> * ...
>> Every subject on the list might be subject of research on its own, it
>> would be good if we could attract
>> some people specialized in economics/sociology to discuss this.
>> This issue to me looks like a small version of a "Global South"
>> problem and possibly CEE region could
>> serve as a good testbed for various activities in this area undertaken
>> for example by the Wikimedia
>> Foundation. This itself would be an interesting problem to talk about.
>> I would propose a session/program block dedicated to this issue.
>> A take way from such a session is to find out what are the main
>> differences between large
>> and small projects in the region and point out areas of further study.
>> If we are lucky we might
>> have some recommendations for projects and chapter activists.
>> ==Technical workshop: Wikipedias in multiple writing systems==
>> Main article:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedias_in_multiple_writing_systems
>> Many communities are interested in using automatic switch between
>> various writing systems (mostly latin, cyrillic and arabic). Some
>> wikis in the region (Serbian, Kazakh) have this implemented already,
>> some would like to have this (Bashkir, Tatar and others).
>> If we manage to invite our colleagues from the former Soviet Union area
>> to participate in this conference we could possibly use this as
>> a chance to:
>> * define common goals, identify issues, requirements
>> * identify resources (i.e. volunteers) that are able to work on
>> development
>>  of the software
>> I think if we gather representatives of 5-6 communities interested in this
>> we might end up setting up a proper project to push things further.
>> ----
>> I think above proposals are enough to fill an almost two day session.
>> I keep in mind there are many other interesting things to cover - my goal
>> was to propose something for the FIRST meeting and to foster further
>> projects/ideas so that we will have a good material to work on during
>> the SECOND and THIRD CEE meeting.
>> So, not everything at once:)
>> I'd love to hear your comments on the above!
>> //Marcin
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