[WMCEE-l] Some toughs about the scope, selection of participants and official language of the CEE Meetings.

Toni Ristovski toni91ehrlich at gmail.com
Mon Oct 2 23:39:46 CEST 2017

Hi all,

I would like to give my opinion on this:

   - *Participants.* Maybe it is nice to read this discussion
   CEE Spring, where users have similar concerns this year about how to define
   participants of the CEE Spring contest, by language, by country, by entity,
   etc. Then, my proposal was to have language groups, so participants have to
   be distributed by languages. I also agree with proposal of Mykola about
   pre-determined quotas for participants.

   - *Official language(s).* I do not agree about having another official
   language. I would like to keep this type of conference where English is
   almost lingua franca between all participants, and creating another track
   with another language, could just create closed groups, one that
   communicate only on Russian (as example), and another one. Also, costs for
   translations would be better spent, if we can have mutual projects, or
   invitation about more participants.

Best regards,


On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:09 PM, Strainu <strainu10 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi there,
> For my generic response to Tomasz's original email I refer you to the
> Facebook post I wrote [1], but I wanted to address one particular
> point that NikK raised:
> 2017-10-01 21:52 GMT+03:00 Mykola Kozlenko <mycola-k at ukr.net>:
> > * Finally, Russian is not a universal solution. I recall reaching someone
> > for CEE Meeting 2014 who had very limited English, but they were from
> > Southern Europe and did not speak Russian either, they had a good
> command of
> > German instead. I also recall CEE Wikimedians (not CEEM attendees,
> however)
> > whose main foreign language was French or Turkish, or even Esperanto in
> one
> > case.
> Nobody said that Russian will be a universal solution. It was one
> proposal to tackle the larger problem of communicating between dozens
> of unrelated languages. This problem is real, and even if the size of
> it is unclear right now, it will undoubtedly grow if the conference
> becomes less chapter centric. If that proposal is not acceptable for
> the Ukrainian community, perhaps it could consider alternative
> solutions to it. Having UN-style full-mesh translation between all the
> languages would be super cool, but probably not realistic. :)
> Strainu
> [1] https://www.facebook.com/groups/1535273526719763/
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