[WMCEE-l] FDC on the CEE Meeting

aktron at centrum.cz aktron at centrum.cz
Mon Nov 24 00:35:03 CET 2014

Umm, yes. It is nice that Wikimedia Austria is interested in the CEE group. Clearly that most of the subjects that are scheduled for the CEE conference are good and valuable. I mean - if they know something they are good in, it will be really good to learn something from them...
When it comes to hiring a stuff - or to see it in a broader definition - professionalitzation yes, the FDC process is indeed a key element in this. So it means that we will not avoid this topic after all, possibly (I mean this was expressed in the "I hope" part of my message). But anyway; I understand various chapters prefer various topics, and so do we. These topics are binded to each other; so it is indeed not a good idea to scrap such a topic in general. But then again, FDC is binded to lot of current chapters' development, so it if it would be split in several topics, it would do just fine...

But then again you as WM UA are the organizers and you schedule your own event... I just expressed my beliefs :-)
All best
> Od: Levon Azizian <levonazizian na gmail.com>
> Komu: A list for Wikimedians from Central and Eastern Europe <wmcee-l na tools.wikimedia.pl>
> Datum: 24.11.2014 00:05
> Předmět: Re: [WMCEE-l] FDC on the CEE Meeting
Dear Jan,We are glad that representative(s) from Czech Republic will have an opportunity to attend CEEM-2014 and looking forward to see our Czech colleagues in Kyiv!Speaking about FDC session, as far as I know it's interesting for Czechs, Estonians and Serbians. Asaf thinks that this session can be uninteresting for other representatives. That's why there was a proposal to discuss with interested representatives all necessary questions on FDC during social events and other free time.But except your letter in support of that session we also received a letter from Wikimedia Austria that they would like to join us via skype and to share their experience on topics "chapter effectiveness" and "good governance".So, we have at least to options. We can provide session FDC and for example add to them skype conversations with Austrians on "chapter effectiveness" and "good governance", or we can do as Asaf proposed (if it's enough for chapters which are going to apply for FDC) and that 
 two topics will attach to some others (for example, "Hiring staff" or "Starting a chapter").I hope to hear as much as possible opinions on this case, because we want to satisfy the requirements of CEE community as much as it's possible. If you have another proposals we would be glad to discuss them.Kind regards,Levon
2014-11-23 21:56 GMT+02:00 <aktron na centrum.cz <aktron na centrum.cz>>:
My fellow friends from the CEE Chapters,
We've been discussing the upcoming Kiev meeting in Wikimedia Czech Republic in recent days. We will have our representative(s) that will come to the meeting. We've been also preparing some agenda for the meeting, so we will be able to share what we have, what is working well and also what is not and where we would like to learn something.
As far as I've understood the CEE meetings, it's more about sharing experience, so we can learn from our successes or fails in order to repeat what was good and avoid what was not.
A month ago me and Vojtěch Dostál have outlined a long-term plan for the developement of Wikimedia Czech Republic. The plan, that I believe is sound, would anticipate us joining the FDC in some reasonable future.  And we have more challenges ahead of us that we'll have to address, like perfecting our projects, working with more institutions etc. We would also like to share the experience we have with another projects we did, like FČO. The impact of FČO is getting close to wikiexpeditions (as we could have seen in the past) and so I believe that the international community should hear about it.
These are the issues that I believe our representative should discuss in Kiev. And FDC is the most important one ... The whole process have for sure significantly changed from 2013 when we tried to join it, and it is something where we need to learn from more experienced ones... such as Wikimedia Estonia or Wikimedia Serbia. There are many questions - like the voluneer time needed, the amound of effort that has to be invested, the level of transparency (reporting) that should be done - and overall the level of professionality we have to achieve before we'll be able to push our own professionalization process a bit more forward.
That is why we would like to have some discussion related to FDC on the meeting. Having seen this being pulled from the conference is understandable, yet I believed this might be highly important panel for us on that very meeting. 
All I hope is that there will be some informal time during the session to have this topic discussed. 
All best
Jan Loužek - Aktron
Wikimedia Czech Republic
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